Comments on: Micro-Messaging – Data Interchange Standards and Track http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/ The ramblings of an often lucid mind... Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:44:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Karoli http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/comment-page-1/#comment-584 Karoli Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:13:40 +0000 http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/#comment-584 On the question of getting the players to agree, they need to understand that it's in their own best interests. Silos are dead. Even Microsoft gets that. Twitter will be irrelevant if they don't open the silo. They're certainly free to develop a viable business model, but siloing the data will be their downfall. Particularly when it's MY data they're siloing. On the question of getting the players to agree, they need to understand that it's in their own best interests. Silos are dead. Even Microsoft gets that. Twitter will be irrelevant if they don't open the silo. They're certainly free to develop a viable business model, but siloing the data will be their downfall. Particularly when it's MY data they're siloing.

]]> By: Karoli http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/comment-page-1/#comment-583 Karoli Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:06:47 +0000 http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/#comment-583 Twitter needs to open up because they control the space right now and have the most ability to define the standard in a way that most benefits them. Right now, they're the ones with the users, but one look at friendster's history should give them a soberiing moment or two, particularly with Microsoft aggressively entering the social networking space with open products. Twitter needs to open up because they control the space right now and have the most ability to define the standard in a way that most benefits them. Right now, they're the ones with the users, but one look at friendster's history should give them a soberiing moment or two, particularly with Microsoft aggressively entering the social networking space with open products.

]]> By: briantroy http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/comment-page-1/#comment-582 briantroy Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:03:13 +0000 http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/#comment-582 I think the developer community is in agreement - the question is how do you get the established players to agree (i.e., twitter/friendfeed/yammer/etc)?<br>IMHO IM never got on a common standard because there was no compelling business imperative for them to do so. Same business drivers that make Cell providers lock devices and subscribers to their network via contracts. <br>Crossing that gap - why is it in Twitter's best interests to open up? - will drive the creation of a widely implemented standards. I think the developer community is in agreement – the question is how do you get the established players to agree (i.e., twitter/friendfeed/yammer/etc)?
IMHO IM never got on a common standard because there was no compelling business imperative for them to do so. Same business drivers that make Cell providers lock devices and subscribers to their network via contracts.
Crossing that gap – why is it in Twitter's best interests to open up? – will drive the creation of a widely implemented standards.

]]> By: Karoli http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/comment-page-1/#comment-581 Karoli Sun, 16 Nov 2008 05:50:33 +0000 http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/#comment-581 I found your example of IM to be a particularly compelling reason for the developer community to really listen to that small vocal group of people. Imagine it -- rather than having to build workarounds, you could be building solutions that cross the clouds and bring amazing value to people, based on a standard that was set *in advance*, based on what we know about the value of the data in the cloud.<br><br>Believe me, I completely understand the challenge of doing something while managing a family, career and life. In this case, however, I think it becomes absolutely critical that there *is* a standard before development happens around it, particularly for the individual developer. If not, you will have a company like Microsoft or Google setting their own standards, which may benefit them but not the user or developer community as a whole. I found your example of IM to be a particularly compelling reason for the developer community to really listen to that small vocal group of people. Imagine it — rather than having to build workarounds, you could be building solutions that cross the clouds and bring amazing value to people, based on a standard that was set *in advance*, based on what we know about the value of the data in the cloud.

Believe me, I completely understand the challenge of doing something while managing a family, career and life. In this case, however, I think it becomes absolutely critical that there *is* a standard before development happens around it, particularly for the individual developer. If not, you will have a company like Microsoft or Google setting their own standards, which may benefit them but not the user or developer community as a whole.

]]> By: Karoli http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/comment-page-1/#comment-378 Karoli Sun, 16 Nov 2008 02:13:40 +0000 http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/#comment-378 On the question of getting the players to agree, they need to understand that it's in their own best interests. Silos are dead. Even Microsoft gets that. Twitter will be irrelevant if they don't open the silo. They're certainly free to develop a viable business model, but siloing the data will be their downfall. Particularly when it's MY data they're siloing. On the question of getting the players to agree, they need to understand that it's in their own best interests. Silos are dead. Even Microsoft gets that. Twitter will be irrelevant if they don't open the silo. They're certainly free to develop a viable business model, but siloing the data will be their downfall. Particularly when it's MY data they're siloing.

]]> By: Karoli http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/comment-page-1/#comment-377 Karoli Sun, 16 Nov 2008 02:06:47 +0000 http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/#comment-377 Twitter needs to open up because they control the space right now and have the most ability to define the standard in a way that most benefits them. Right now, they're the ones with the users, but one look at friendster's history should give them a soberiing moment or two, particularly with Microsoft aggressively entering the social networking space with open products. Twitter needs to open up because they control the space right now and have the most ability to define the standard in a way that most benefits them. Right now, they're the ones with the users, but one look at friendster's history should give them a soberiing moment or two, particularly with Microsoft aggressively entering the social networking space with open products.

]]> By: briantroy http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/comment-page-1/#comment-376 briantroy Sun, 16 Nov 2008 01:03:13 +0000 http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/#comment-376 I think the developer community is in agreement - the question is how do you get the established players to agree (i.e., twitter/friendfeed/yammer/etc)?<br>IMHO IM never got on a common standard because there was no compelling business imperative for them to do so. Same business drivers that make Cell providers lock devices and subscribers to their network via contracts. <br>Crossing that gap - why is it in Twitter's best interests to open up? - will drive the creation of a widely implemented standards. I think the developer community is in agreement – the question is how do you get the established players to agree (i.e., twitter/friendfeed/yammer/etc)?
IMHO IM never got on a common standard because there was no compelling business imperative for them to do so. Same business drivers that make Cell providers lock devices and subscribers to their network via contracts.
Crossing that gap – why is it in Twitter's best interests to open up? – will drive the creation of a widely implemented standards.

]]> By: Karoli http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/comment-page-1/#comment-375 Karoli Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:50:33 +0000 http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/#comment-375 I found your example of IM to be a particularly compelling reason for the developer community to really listen to that small vocal group of people. Imagine it -- rather than having to build workarounds, you could be building solutions that cross the clouds and bring amazing value to people, based on a standard that was set *in advance*, based on what we know about the value of the data in the cloud.<br><br>Believe me, I completely understand the challenge of doing something while managing a family, career and life. In this case, however, I think it becomes absolutely critical that there *is* a standard before development happens around it, particularly for the individual developer. If not, you will have a company like Microsoft or Google setting their own standards, which may benefit them but not the user or developer community as a whole. I found your example of IM to be a particularly compelling reason for the developer community to really listen to that small vocal group of people. Imagine it — rather than having to build workarounds, you could be building solutions that cross the clouds and bring amazing value to people, based on a standard that was set *in advance*, based on what we know about the value of the data in the cloud.

Believe me, I completely understand the challenge of doing something while managing a family, career and life. In this case, however, I think it becomes absolutely critical that there *is* a standard before development happens around it, particularly for the individual developer. If not, you will have a company like Microsoft or Google setting their own standards, which may benefit them but not the user or developer community as a whole.

]]> By: Karoli http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/comment-page-1/#comment-279 Karoli Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:13:40 +0000 http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/#comment-279 On the question of getting the players to agree, they need to understand that it's in their own best interests. Silos are dead. Even Microsoft gets that. Twitter will be irrelevant if they don't open the silo. They're certainly free to develop a viable business model, but siloing the data will be their downfall. Particularly when it's MY data they're siloing. On the question of getting the players to agree, they need to understand that it's in their own best interests. Silos are dead. Even Microsoft gets that. Twitter will be irrelevant if they don't open the silo. They're certainly free to develop a viable business model, but siloing the data will be their downfall. Particularly when it's MY data they're siloing.

]]> By: Karoli http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/comment-page-1/#comment-278 Karoli Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:06:47 +0000 http://briantroy.com/blog/2008/11/15/micro-messaging-data-interchange-standards-and-track/#comment-278 Twitter need to open up because they control the space right now and have the most ability to define the standard in a way that most benefits them. Right now, they're the ones with the users, but one look at friendster's history should give them a soberiing moment or two, particularly with Microsoft aggressively entering the social networking space with open products. Twitter need to open up because they control the space right now and have the most ability to define the standard in a way that most benefits them. Right now, they're the ones with the users, but one look at friendster's history should give them a soberiing moment or two, particularly with Microsoft aggressively entering the social networking space with open products.

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